Rethinking Education

A group for anyone who wants to help us develop an NTW approach to education.

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To act as a catalyst in creating new networks to stimulate debate across arts, education and beyond

To provide a forum to discuss education in a language that encourages fresh and innovative ideas

To develop leaders and advocates from a range of backgrounds, working throughout the whole education system

To focus on creating long-term solutions to the problems of the formal education system

To encourage cross-curricular dialogue to promote the benefits of the arts at all stages of the educational experience

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Comment by Guy O'Donnell on October 17, 2014 at 13:51

Interesting article by Frank Cottrell Boyce: schools are destroying the power of stories via @guardian

Comment by Bill Hamblett on October 17, 2014 at 11:35

Having been at the Arts Council of Wales conference I have been waiting to see what action may be taken. This seems a great opportunity to pursue the shaping of the future of education in Wales so surely we should reach out to some of the more inspiring educationists already working globally and in Wales inside and outside the system, Sue Lyle springs to mind. Maybe we should inflate this theatre bubble to more than the 37( as of now) in this group.

Comment by Christina Handke on October 15, 2014 at 12:54

And I also believe the only way to become a rounded, able, self-confident person is through art.

Since I don't want to sound like an idealistic hippy (although I don't think there is anything wrong with that and I definitely am one) I'm gonna back myself up with a few practitioners, who might be interesting for you to look into. I admire the work of  Dorothy Heathcote very, very much and also think Edward Bond and Paolo Freire are very interesting people to get to know.

There is also the National Association for the Teaching of Drama, who might be able to give you a good overview over the National Curriculums and the general happenings of DiE and TiE in Britain, if that's something you're interested in. I can also give you the email address of a few practitioners if you think that would be helpful, I'm sure you know a few yourself.

Sorry this is super long, I'm not sure why I talk so much, I think it's my parent's fault, they encouraged it.

Comment by Christina Handke on October 15, 2014 at 12:53

Okay, so I have been reading the comments on here and I haven't been able to stop thinking about David Foster Wallace's speech "This is water." There are two paragraphs that remind me of this topic very much and they are:

That is real freedom. That is being educated, and understanding how to think. The alternative is unconsciousness, the default setting, the rat race, the constant gnawing sense of having had, and lost, some infinite thing.

It is about the real value of a real education, which has almost nothing to do with knowledge, and everything to do with simple awareness; awareness of what is so real and essential, so hidden in plain sight all around us, all the time, that we have to keep reminding ourselves over and over: "This is water.This is water." It is unimaginably hard to do this, to stay conscious and alive in the adult world day in and day out. Which means yet another grand cliché turns out to be true: your education really IS the job of a lifetime. And it commences: now

If you want to, you can find the whole speech here. 
I understand that these ideas are rather abstract and that they don't answer the "how" at all. But they do summarise in more beautiful and wise word than the ones I could ever use, what I believe about education. I believe that education should be about giving children the tools to live. The tools to acquire knowledge, to believe in yourself, to form and sustain relationships, to not only build a personal system of values and morals but to live it and to stand up for it. I think that way children will be able to grow into mündige (is the right English word here 'mature'? Or 'responsible'?) adults, who know who they are and want to be and what they can do.

Having worked in a school I see a system that treats children not as perfect children but as imperfect adults. A system that polishes them into whatever the curriculum and the people behind it consider as appropriate. It teaches them that there is a right and a wrong in this world and that it is universally true for everyone. It punishes them for making mistakes, rather then teaching them the value of it.
It doesn't teach them how to think, how to make decisions, how to believe in things, it rather needs the children to conform because only then the every day life and schedule of school works. It pushes them into a box until they all kind of behave the similarly and think similarly . It doesn't celebrate every child for who it is and the flawed adults it will become. 

I remember sitting in a lecture at University once and the lecturer asked a question and no one said anything and he just looked at us and said:" What happened to you? If I ask a question in primary school, all hands go up, everyone is so excited and here nothing. Somewhere along the line between primary school and now someone must have taught you that not participating at all is better than giving a wrong answer." I spend so much of my time unlearning what I had been taught in school. That's not to say that I don't appreciate all the things I learned there, it's just that I feel that they are not educating the whole child, the whole person, with all their abilities and I'll say it again" flaws" because I believe in flaws very much. 

Comment by David Evans on October 14, 2014 at 16:27

My education is one of the things that gives me my identity - it makes me interested in things.  I was lucky, up until I was 13 I was regarded as troublesome and stupid, then a teacher took a bit more interest in me and I flourished under that attention.   So much in education is about the teachers, yet teachers say they find the system so report and paper based that they are drowning under admin and loosing children.  

My limited knowledge of the system is that it is in a state of constant flux, just when a school gets to grips with one system the government changes the priorities and they have to restructure everything - how can children flourish and teachers teach under such circumstances?   

Education should be removed from political control, if educationists were to run education our children might stand a chance. 

Comment by Gavin Porter on October 14, 2014 at 16:21

Comment by Gavin Porter on October 14, 2014 at 16:13 

You can also check #hiphoped on twitter - There is a twitter debate every Tuesday at 9PM EST

Comment by Gavin Porter on October 14, 2014 at 16:10
Comment by Ahmed I Hassan on October 14, 2014 at 15:55
A way forward for me would be an all inclusive approach. Children who are misunderstood are deprived when it comes to doing artistic things ect getting a main role in a school play or a school assembly. Yet I see them as some of the most talented children when it comes to speaking in front of a crowd. I'm not saying that the children who are always well behaved should miss out. What I am saying is the ship needs to be balanced. I think schools need to get the most out of children. They can do this by simply observing and then acting upon it. If a child is constantly joking about it doesn't mean that he's naughty. He's probably craving for attention and wanting to feel a part of something. So why not make that child a part of the school.
Comment by Devinda De Silva on October 13, 2014 at 15:07

Thanks Merel and Dan, some interesting thoughts.

I think it might be useful to let you know what our starting point was. Have a look at a report by Dai Smith, you can download it from here. Its worth a read, one of its main principals is that 'creativity' becomes a core part of the curriculum, which might go some way to addressing both your points. We're hoping that we can mix this kind of thinking with the work that NTW does, to develop our own approach to education.

As far as leadership goes, i agree, all good leaders should teach people to lead themselves, or at least see their own potential. Its a style that we've always promoted through TEAM and other strands of NTW.


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